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Border: If there’s one word we shouldn’t want to add to the U.S. lexicon, it’s sicario, the Spanish word for contract killer. But with lawmen warning of sicarios now in Arizona, we may soon know that word — and worse.
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 20, 2010 11:39:20am |
There are a lot of unverified assertions in that piece. I know it's an editorial, but I think if one wants to be that inflammatory, one should stick to facts. This is the most egregious claim:
First, federal authorities have effectively ceded U.S. sovereignty to cartels, declaring parts of Arizona off-limits to citizens and refusing to let local lawmen enter it on "environmental" concerns.
There is no truth to that. There are warning signs, and there are places where law enforcement is advised not to go into alone, but that's an awful long way from "...ceded US sovereignty to cartels". I guess I have to cross IBD off the list of useful sources.
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A.M. Mora y Leon Wed, Oct 20, 2010 11:46:36am |
Alas, you did that awhile back, I've seen your previous comments.
In any case, it's true that lawmen cannot enter cartel-infested parts of Arizona because environmental concerns trump them. Here:
[Link: spectator.org...]
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 20, 2010 12:42:34pm |
re: #2 A.M. Mora y Leon
Alas, you did that awhile back, I've seen your previous comments.
In any case, it's true that lawmen cannot enter cartel-infested parts of Arizona because environmental concerns trump them. Here:
[Link: spectator.org...]
That link does not show that lawmen cannot enter any areas. It doesn't even claim to show that. It does say,
The Border Patrol, a division of Homeland Security, has to complete lengthy environmental reports and get permission from the Departments of Agriculture and Interior before it can do anything. This can take several months.
...which is obviously untrue on its face, and I know it to be untrue from other reading I've done. American Spectator is a horrible source, the author is an AGW denier, which hurts his credibility and that of his publication. Also used as a source for this article: Fox News.
Your sources are not good, the facts are not there. The reality is certainly bad enough. It pisses me off that people will lie to make political points in a situation where thousands of Mexicans are being slaughtered. If they want to get real about the problem of the cartels, they will start talking about legalizing drugs and reforming immigration, which would remove a lot of the money and power from the cartels.
This guy just wants to demonize Raul Grijalva because he's a Democrat and he disagrees with him on the issues. It doesn't make him look good when he has to lie to make his case.
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 20, 2010 3:43:26pm |
If you're interested in some actual reporting on this issue, here you go:
GAO report: US land laws don't hinder border agents
Border Boletín: Utah legislator continues pushing for more BP access to federal lands
Those are from today, by the way.
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A.M. Mora y Leon Wed, Oct 20, 2010 4:30:10pm |
FTA: The Border Patrol agents must get permission from supervisors to open locked gates and patrol the San Bernardino refuge, according to the report. The rules are in place to protect the habitat of threatened and endangered species.
The GAO report shows the need to give the Border Patrol better access to federal lands, said Bishop spokeswoman Melissa Subbotin.
"They can't wait for that delay," Subbotin said. "When they are radioing in for access to these lands with locked gates, they are missing critical opportunities to catch these criminals."
Sounds like a problem to me, even if it's not one to GAO.
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wrenchwench Wed, Oct 20, 2010 4:58:30pm |
re: #5 A.M. Mora y Leon
Sounds like a problem to me, even if it's not one to GAO.
So you and Rep. Rob Bishop of Utah (and his spokeswoman) disagree with the GAO and the Border Patrol.
Do you think Mexican assassins are roaming around Arizona? Do you think that's a greater concern than the known assassins all over Mexico? Does it have to come to the US to be a concern?
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A.M. Mora y Leon Wed, Oct 20, 2010 6:03:28pm |
Nope. I believe in giving Mexico all the resources it needs to rub these maggots out. The U.S. needs to create a Plan Mexico just like it created a Plan Colombia. I don't know if you've ever been to Colombia before and after that program, but I have - it's night and day.
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wrenchwench Thu, Oct 21, 2010 9:29:28am |
re: #7 A.M. Mora y Leon
Nope. I believe in giving Mexico all the resources it needs to rub these maggots out. The U.S. needs to create a Plan Mexico just like it created a Plan Colombia. I don't know if you've ever been to Colombia before and after that program, but I have - it's night and day.
I agree about a Plan Mexico.
I have a brother in Bogota, but I have not been there myself. I have an open invitation....
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